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Mike Rothschild
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.20 10:29:54 -
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Hello guys, hello everyone!
So I am asking a question that might look dumb to you but who knows?
I'm very interested in EVE's diplomacy which is pretty awesome, I have to say. But the point is that I am just on that great game for 2 months now and I must have many things to learn of course. And I want. So I read a lot about corporations, alliances and everything about politics but it's kinda hard to read through all of that.
And I came in EVE for almost 2 reasons : the economy and the diplomacy, not so surprising since I plan to study IRL in finance and international relations.
So I am looking for a diplomat in EVE who would be kind enough to be like a "teacher" because nothing is more important for me than learning from someone who knows what he's talking about. I don't know if it's the right place to write this and I apologize if not. Also, I am sorry for my english, I must have made so many mistakes.
Thanks for answering though and helping me maybe.
Good day guys and fly safe :) |
Mike Rothschild
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.20 10:53:31 -
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Thanks for the answer!
You are right of course.
I don't pretend to know how to talk just because I am talking with people. People are so different that it is even impossible to pretend that.
And this is the point of my message, learning how to interpret an incoming message and then respond in consequence as well as learning the history part of the game.
Also, I may be not completly aware of my defects, but who can pretend to know that, but I am trying as hard as I can to learn something everytime I fail on a given situation. Why I failed and what should I do next time?
All I want is advices and learning from someone, maybe like you. In my opinion, it's more like EVE experience will have an impact of my real-life experience and the other way to. That's what make this game so unpredictable and addictive!
Thanks again for your help and advices. This is cool!
EDIT : why do I separate this? It is just a kind of sentence I like to say :) |
Mike Rothschild
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.20 11:35:59 -
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You are maybe taking it more seriously than me but you taught me so much things though!
But how people would know everything they say in a particular way?
For me there are serious discussion, like a negociation, where everything we say matter and discussion where we can be more relaxed.
And, I am curious and interested, I would like to know how you can learn, or even I can learn something about me by knowing why I said "guys" or "people" or anything?
But now you say it, I understand that things that appear to be "normal" for someone are finally a kind of "window" to his personnality and thoughts? am I right?
I realize that you are so true, we are living in a globalized world where everyone want to be someone, with a particular identity, a proper identity. In conclusin, we are all the same a many aspects and we don't pay much attention to what we say.
Well, you are a good teacher! Thanks. |
Mike Rothschild
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.20 12:28:55 -
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Thanks a lot!
I will definitely have a look at the books!
Well, I already heard that joining a larger alliance would help and it is understanble though when thinking about it.
But the main question is how do diplomat can prove themselves? You need a something like a "critical" situation to deal with it, but no one will let you face that kind of situation if you are a new to the game of course.
You pointed what I wanted to say in that topic : learn the tools of the trade from more experienced players.
Thanks for answering and have a nice day :) |
Mike Rothschild
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.20 12:48:13 -
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Well, actually, I do not want to be an ******* to get what I want. You know, I am not like that. I want to help people, to help my future alliance. I am not that one who will stab you in the back just to "show", if it can show anything, that I am better.
Yes, I know that sometimes, against enemies, I will have to do that but I would prefer the fresh-mind talking without angry.
This is why I want a position affiliated with diplomacy.
But, from what you've said, I do not mind getting involved with those things : I love economy so supplying the market would be nice and logistics are so important in this game.
It helps me a lot. Thanks again! |
Mike Rothschild
Coffee and Things
Two Inch Terror
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Posted - 2015.06.20 21:14:39 -
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Thank you for the reply.
I started watching the video but I wonder if Sion is still playing the game at the moment and why he would teach me lessons...
I am just a new player amoung hundred other player.
Thank you for the video!
Rule n°1 : "No one says anything "just so" and everything that is being said or written is an expression of the inner self."
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Mike Rothschild
Coffee and Things
Two Inch Terror
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Posted - 2015.06.20 21:36:21 -
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Well.. Yes, nine contacts... That is a good start with all I have to read and to do...
For my name, I was not inspered for anything at the time I created my character so I took what passed by and I found Rothschild. Here is the story.
Sorry for you, I can not change it! ;)
Rule n°1 : "No one says anything "just so" and everything that is being said or written is an expression of the inner self."
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Mike Rothschild
Coffee and Things
Two Inch Terror
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Posted - 2015.06.21 10:29:49 -
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Otso Bakarti you are right. Words are powerful and most of time, people do not realize the "true" power of a good sentence at the good time.
"Daerrol" wrote:Diplomacy is easy. Get some guys together. Get guns. Go out shooting. Show people you can shoot. Create agreements with local entities on who/what to shoot. Remember, "Master Blaster rules barter town!" is a form of (hostile) diplomacy! OFC you would use Mike Rothschild Rules Kamela, or something similar.
This is a point of view, I would rather get what I want by using words and friendship. Yes, army and persuasion or even blackmail if needed but this is not the method I would choose first.
It only gets worse if people feel that you are feeling yourself more powerful than them. Speak to people as people.
Rule n°1 : "No one says anything "just so" and everything that is being said or written is an expression of the inner self."
Pixie Tickle
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Mike Rothschild
Coffee and Things
Two Inch Terror
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Posted - 2015.06.21 10:42:27 -
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Sean Smith is the first famous diplomat I heard even before coming in EVE Online.
I did not mentioned him here by respect. I do not like to use people to prove my point of view or something. But it is definitely the guy who were the best diplomat by far.
I have already read what you sent here and I found it heart touching and beyond words. When I was searching for anything on the Internet that could help me understand the EVE Online background, I found many things about Vile Rat that were so interesting that I could not stop reading.
Rule n°1 : "No one says anything "just so" and everything that is being said or written is an expression of the inner self."
Pixie Tickle
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Mike Rothschild
Coffee and Things
Two Inch Terror
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Posted - 2015.06.23 06:29:52 -
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Vile Rat was a great person and I would have liked to meet him...
But he would not even have noticed me ^^
Rule n°1 : "No one says anything "just so" and everything that is being said or written is an expression of the inner self."
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Mike Rothschild
Coffee and Things
Two Inch Terror
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Posted - 2015.06.24 17:18:36 -
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Thank you guys for all your answers! It is very educative!
Your post is very instructive Khergit Deserters thank you very much. I will be reading it some times to really get all of what you've said.
Rule n°1 : "No one says anything "just so" and everything that is being said or written is an expression of the inner self."
Pixie Tickle
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Mike Rothschild
Coffee and Things
Two Inch Terror
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Posted - 2015.06.25 18:23:37 -
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Sorry for that double post
But I wanted to keep you up to date. I recently tried to contact Sion as someone said! It turned out that he answered me (thank him).
Thank you for the advice because I wouldn't have known him anyway!
Rule n°1 : "No one says anything "just so" and everything that is being said or written is an expression of the inner self."
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